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Lunedor
07-08-2010, 08:26
Please,


Have a look and post- as we need to express how we feel about something that is being forced on us.

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1&pageNo=433

If you are against

or

If you support the new features

//I personaly think it s a violation of my privacy.

Lunedor

Lunedor
07-08-2010, 08:30
http://seewhatyoudidthere.com/2010/07/07/realid-changes-the-very-real-ease-of-stalking-in-the-internet-age/

Above link demonstrates how easy this will make it for vengeful co-players to track you.
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http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/zeroday/2010/07/07/is-korean-law-driving-policy-at-blizzard/

Above link hints at a possible and very dark reason for Blizzard to implement Real ID.

Lunedor
07-08-2010, 14:14
This proposed change has already made it into main stream media in Germany, the biggest newspaper "Bild" already has an article about it.
http://www.bild.de/BILD/digital/spiele/2010/news/07/07/blizzard/klarnamen-foren-starcraft-2-world-of-warcraft-spieler-protest.html

It is important you take your protest out to the respecive customer protection and data protection agencies in your countries, most of them are eager to get involved in the issue after their latest success in reigning in facebook & others.

follow this link and voice your concerns:

National Data Protection Commissioners

http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/nationalcomm/index_en.htm

Lunedor
07-09-2010, 11:50
No reaction?

a lot of stuff is happening at the moment-

http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225702740&subSection=Vulnerabilities+and+threats

( that shows how bad the lack of privacy inforced on us can be harmful)

/Lune

Deveroux
07-09-2010, 12:27
Well i don't like it personally, but i never post on blizz official forums or nearly any but ours for that matter, so just not been too bothered :p.

Lunedor
07-09-2010, 14:45
Blizzard’s privacy policy shows Blizzard has reserved the right to “enhance or merge the personal information collected at a Blizzard site with data from third parties. Blizzard may also provide your personal information to other companies or organizations that offer products or services that may be of interest to you.” While the policy explicitly states users will be granted an opt-out opportunity, it is important to note that the market for user data is a large one, and the uses of Real ID may not be restricted to forum participation and chatting.


so it s not only the forums-

My source:
http://cdt.org/blogs/sean-brooks/blizzard-looks-chill-forum-speech-real-id

/Lune

Talleh / Crona
07-09-2010, 15:22
People need to stop being so paranoid, why are you ashamed of information you put on the internet yourself in the first place. Also the data they collect will in the end benefit you. As this is usually user preference data. "what sites do users <insert age> look at. What is the general interest of this target group etc, etc." They won't put your personal info anywhere. They don't care about your name, or anything relevant to that. They only care about marketing information, meaning target groups and scales of interest. Google has been doing this since they launched. Why do you think they are so rich?

Also the internet is often refered to as a "global village". No matter where you are from, take wow for example you're all from azeroth. This is the WoW community. the only difference in WoW is that you use nicknames. People knowing your real name can do just how much harm? bully you about your life? Put them on ignore, if they do something global in WoW they will be banned. As soon they put something private about you online they can be sued. It's up to you to hide your facebook, and what not information you put it up there yourself anyway. :) medical records and such important documents are still hidden.

I'll give you an example.

My name is Steven de Groot, i am born march 5 1988 in Alkmaar. Currently living in 2 places. Heerhugowaard, Netherlands and Lund, Sweden. See what exactly you can find out about me ;)

Lunedor
07-09-2010, 15:46
well I am glad you are happy to share this personnal info-;)

I simply want to "choose" what is public and what is not- and certainly not being forced-

I enjoyed reading Blizz forums and sometimes participating in some debate on our in game feature- All i want of my fellow gamers is share a nice time and know me by my character's name.

The rest is Private and i certainly don t want 3rd parties to target my personal info for commercial abuses.

/Lune

Monz
07-09-2010, 16:09
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Prezer
07-09-2010, 16:45
Detective Monz.

Monz
07-09-2010, 17:45
X

Mageta
07-09-2010, 17:55
I am James Bond whats my info monz? :]

Talleh / Crona
07-09-2010, 20:30
hehe phone thing was wrong, they are both hers. I do not study at hogeschool van amsterdam anymore, dutch adresses totally wrong. Picture is probably mine on ESL gaming or the veritas site and Facebook, which is info i uploaded myself conciously. My facebook is publicly linked to Sandra's which we also conciously did. Also the bday is simple math :P The fact you knew i was from lund narrowed it down quite a bit luckily i havent linked lund to my battle. net;) for you i guess :P as the adress is right. you like google maps? :P Good job anyhow.

just a message to make paranoid people happy. Blizzard cancelled the real ID

Monz
07-09-2010, 20:47
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Roth
07-10-2010, 04:32
Actually I would have gotten all that info even if you left out Lund. The birthday made my finding 100% sure I had the first lead correct and after that it was as easy as Kerp dying. Didn´t use google maps but I´m gonna try it some day. :)

(Tried google maps now, was yuck. Try it yourself and then use www.hitta.se and their street view, much better.)
HAHAHAHA that one made my day :)

and yes, blizz has officialy cancelled the real name stuff on the forums.

Lunedor
07-10-2010, 05:24
:)Youpie:rolleyes:

http://www.wow.com/2010/07/09/mike-morhaime-real-names-will-not-be-required-on-official-forum/

/Pananoid Lune is Happy

Privacy matters- but it can be viewed very differently from 1 country to another- Just glad the community won over 1 way decision- Democracy also matters.